Comments on: Epitaph: Here lies 30 percent profit http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/2008/12/epitaph-here-lies-30-percent-profit/ Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:37:40 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Joe Duty http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/2008/12/epitaph-here-lies-30-percent-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-6774 Joe Duty Sun, 13 Dec 2009 05:13:18 +0000 http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/?p=1053#comment-6774 Very nice heartfelt piece Rosh, as I read through,it sounded so much like the norm from this day and age,from the conversation of friends. Although still at a community newspaper, haven't had quite the same experience, but times are surley changing! Thanks for the words. Very nice heartfelt piece Rosh, as I read through,it sounded so much like the norm from this day and age,from the conversation of friends. Although still at a community newspaper, haven’t had quite the same experience, but times are surley changing! Thanks for the words.

]]> By: Rosh http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/2008/12/epitaph-here-lies-30-percent-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-6769 Rosh Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:38:22 +0000 http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/?p=1053#comment-6769 It's amazing how the newspaper industry has regularly downgraded the quality of their products and wondered why they are loosing influence. Is it too late for them? It’s amazing how the newspaper industry has regularly downgraded the quality of their products and wondered why they are loosing influence. Is it too late for them?

]]> By: Jim Patterson http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/2008/12/epitaph-here-lies-30-percent-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-6767 Jim Patterson Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:03:29 +0000 http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/?p=1053#comment-6767 The Arizona Republic, or "Repulsive" as many of us call it here, laid off their photographers. Now, reporters must also take photos. In a market that continues to grow, their readership goes down 3 percent or more each year. The mainline newspapers always talk in terms of their costs going up to explain everything. Now I was a reporter in the past, so I know the business. None of them ever mentions the CONTENT of the newspaper. Maybe that is why people don't buy any longer? Hmmmm, think about that. The other test is, are there other newspapers that have strong circulation? Why is that? What are they doing differently? The Arizona Republic, or “Repulsive” as many of us call it here, laid off their photographers. Now, reporters must also take photos. In a market that continues to grow, their readership goes down 3 percent or more each year. The mainline newspapers always talk in terms of their costs going up to explain everything. Now I was a reporter in the past, so I know the business. None of them ever mentions the CONTENT of the newspaper. Maybe that is why people don’t buy any longer? Hmmmm, think about that. The other test is, are there other newspapers that have strong circulation? Why is that? What are they doing differently?

]]> By: Dominique http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/2008/12/epitaph-here-lies-30-percent-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-5667 Dominique Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:48:32 +0000 http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/?p=1053#comment-5667 This was a particularly interesting post for me as I know the newspaper you're talking about in this post. I grew up reading it. I even had a few freelance assignments from them nearly 2 years ago...and wrote for another newspaper in the same town for a decade. I really never met your chief photographer, although he seemed like a great guy when I saw him around town...and according to those who knew him well. It was a sad story when he left the paper, then died so shortly afterward. The weekly I worked for went through a similar trajectory...started out owned by an individual, then a couple of buyouts later, it is much in the same situation as your old daily. I get together with my some of colleagues from there once in a while. Some are coping with the changes better than others. Meanwhile, as a long-time newspaper reader, it breaks my heart to see how local news coverage has suffered throughout these changes. The Web sites for the locals...and even the large Detroit papers...are laughable at best. I don't want to tell you what Tim had to say when he started looking for some sports scores on the local online sites the other day. They've yet to adapt to the new media and make it valuable for readers. Well, at least your buddy's little camera has a good home now :) This was a particularly interesting post for me as I know the newspaper you’re talking about in this post. I grew up reading it. I even had a few freelance assignments from them nearly 2 years ago…and wrote for another newspaper in the same town for a decade.
I really never met your chief photographer, although he seemed like a great guy when I saw him around town…and according to those who knew him well. It was a sad story when he left the paper, then died so shortly afterward.
The weekly I worked for went through a similar trajectory…started out owned by an individual, then a couple of buyouts later, it is much in the same situation as your old daily. I get together with my some of colleagues from there once in a while. Some are coping with the changes better than others.
Meanwhile, as a long-time newspaper reader, it breaks my heart to see how local news coverage has suffered throughout these changes. The Web sites for the locals…and even the large Detroit papers…are laughable at best. I don’t want to tell you what Tim had to say when he started looking for some sports scores on the local online sites the other day. They’ve yet to adapt to the new media and make it valuable for readers.

Well, at least your buddy’s little camera has a good home now :)

]]> By: Rosh http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/2008/12/epitaph-here-lies-30-percent-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-5664 Rosh Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:55:56 +0000 http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/?p=1053#comment-5664 @Russell Crazy thing. I was speaking at the Denver press club about new media the day the Rocky went down. It was an interesting day. @Russell Crazy thing. I was speaking at the Denver press club about new media the day the Rocky went down. It was an interesting day.

]]> By: Russell Green http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/2008/12/epitaph-here-lies-30-percent-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-5662 Russell Green Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:46:03 +0000 http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/?p=1053#comment-5662 Great post! Thanks for sharing! In my community, we lost the rocky mountain news, one of our main 2. The other is trying to hang on. I do see some of our smaller, more targeted print papers do fairly well. Granted they're very targeted for the local music scene for example or outdoor living etc. Is that the same in other communities? Great post! Thanks for sharing!

In my community, we lost the rocky mountain news, one of our main 2. The other is trying to hang on. I do see some of our smaller, more targeted print papers do fairly well.
Granted they’re very targeted for the local music scene for example or outdoor living etc. Is that the same in other communities?

]]> By: Matt Kirwan http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/2008/12/epitaph-here-lies-30-percent-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-447 Matt Kirwan Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:54:36 +0000 http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/?p=1053#comment-447 Excellent post. As an optimist and someone relatively new to the newspaper industry, it is interesting to read of 'days gone by'... ...however bad the world and industry fall, I always try and keep myself up by the fact that media content will ALWAYS be needed, be it stills, video or a mixture. Keep your heads up and keep taking pictures - its what keeps us sane, isn't it? Kind Regards, Matt Kirwan http://www.mattkirwan.co.uk/ http://pixelinsider.blogspot.com/ Excellent post.

As an optimist and someone relatively new to the newspaper industry, it is interesting to read of ‘days gone by’…

…however bad the world and industry fall, I always try and keep myself up by the fact that media content will ALWAYS be needed, be it stills, video or a mixture.

Keep your heads up and keep taking pictures – its what keeps us sane, isn’t it?

Kind Regards,

Matt Kirwan
http://www.mattkirwan.co.uk/
http://pixelinsider.blogspot.com/

]]> By: Adam Strong http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/2008/12/epitaph-here-lies-30-percent-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-237 Adam Strong Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:56:48 +0000 http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/?p=1053#comment-237 great post . . . great post . . .

]]> By: admin http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/2008/12/epitaph-here-lies-30-percent-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-223 admin Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:33:40 +0000 http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/?p=1053#comment-223 Thanks for the comment. I'm sorry to hear about you being laid off again, but, unfortunately, it is a common story. Below is a direct link for people to view your site. http://insidephoto.info/ Rosh Thanks for the comment.

I’m sorry to hear about you being laid off again, but, unfortunately, it is a common story. Below is a direct link for people to view your site.

http://insidephoto.info/

Rosh

]]> By: john cosgrove http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/2008/12/epitaph-here-lies-30-percent-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-222 john cosgrove Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:34:40 +0000 http://www.newmediaphotographer.com/?p=1053#comment-222 kia ora mate (that's hello in maori) just caught your latest, what an insightful blog, i too have just be made redundent ( don't they love that word now they are calling it Extraneous to Needs) at a new newspaper that started down here in Dunedin, New Zealand, it was a bit of a shock but as this is the third time i have been laid off as Extraneous to needs i am coping with it well, i started an online magazine called insidephoto.info to try and help local photographers grow and develop as photographers. keep up the good work and i'll keep on learning more about the business from the freelancer end of the scale. kia ora mate (that’s hello in maori) just caught your latest, what an insightful blog, i too have just be made redundent ( don’t they love that word now they are calling it Extraneous to Needs) at a new newspaper that started down here in Dunedin, New Zealand, it was a bit of a shock but as this is the third time i have been laid off as Extraneous to needs i am coping with it well, i started an online magazine called insidephoto.info to try and help local photographers grow and develop as photographers. keep up the good work and i’ll keep on learning more about the business from the freelancer end of the scale.

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